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Sean T. Collins on Asha Greyjoy

She’s still waaaaaay too into violence for me to be like “Hooray, Asha Greyjoy represents a new way forward.” Only by the degraded standards of the Ironborn, or by out-and-out monsters like Gregor Clegane or Ramsay Bolton or Rorge, is she some kind of commendable figure. 

For real, though. What the actual fuck? The followup elaborations on Asha (Yara, for the show-only fans) aren’t much better, either:

She fairly gleefully takes part in the conquest of the North, a bloody, spectacularly stupid and petty affair that takes place solely because it can. She may not be gratuitously cruel or sadistic, and she doesn’t directly take pleasure in tormenting or killing defenseless noncombatants, but plenty of tormenting and killing of defenseless noncombatants takes place in any war, including this one. Killing of combatants isn’t such hot shit either! Especially when the only reason you’re fighting them is to, in classic D&D fashion, kill them and take their stuff.

To Asha’s credit, she knows when she’s beaten, she knows a losing cause, and again, she’s not a sadist. But she’s certainly a bully and a creep.

The thing I find most admirable about her? She enjoys sex! Fun, consensual, hot sex. Good for her. Stop invading random Northern towns and murdering people so you can take their shit, though.

Not really clear here on what makes Asha any different from every other male leader and warrior in Westeros. They are at war, so there is brutality for sure. She is notably less cruel than most of them, though. But gosh, she likes to fuck, so at least that part of her is super!


  1. boiledleather reblogged this from tumblrofthrones and added:
    You definitely do! I didn’t mean what you said was of low quality, I meant that the spin that had been put on what *I*...
  2. lordmanderblee reblogged this from boiledleather and added:
    So I’ve noticed all of the people getting all up in arms about this and first, it pretty clearly demonstrates everything...
  3. tumblrofthrones reblogged this from boiledleather and added:
    I think that you could have articulated your point a little clearer. Comparing Asha to being only better in comparison...
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  5. formerlybarbreyryswells reblogged this from professional-widow and added:
    disappoint. Also,...It’s not. That’s what makes it so outrageous to me. It absolutely is...
  6. professional-widow reblogged this from taeko-yasuhiros and added:
    Oh dear. And Sean T. Collins usually has such quality asoiaf opinions too. I am disappoint.Also, I feel like a lot of...
  7. fullofsummer reblogged this from tumblrofthrones and added:
    so she’s a woman who kills people wtf that doesn’t make her a demon please note that Balon was
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  16. oftheforest reblogged this from tumblrofthrones and added:
    Oh, yeah, she’s REAL different from Robb. Or Jon. She’s a warrior and a leader and it’s war. Jfc, people. She’s one of...
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  18. cryptomancy reblogged this from cryptomancy and added:
    Also “the degraded standards of the ironborn.” UGH. Yes, because let’s compare this entire culture to one-off bad guys...
  19. shedontspeak reblogged this from formerlybarbreyryswells and added:
    TO RORGE AND CLEGANE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? OH HELL NAW!!!!!
  20. carmensandiegoing said: i. dude. are we serious here.
  21. merovingians said: noooo. Sean why would you?! like I guess I see where he’s coming from? But Asha is not actually that terrible a person. And from the society she lives in that’s an accomplishment.